Arnie Gundersen on Fukushima: Be Prepared to Leave

Yesterday Chris Martenson posted an excellent interview he conducted with Arnie Gundersen of Fairwinds Associates.

Chris Martenson Interviews Arnie Gundersen on Fukushima

In it Arnie warns:

I have said it’s worse than Chernobyl and I’ll stand by that. There was an enormous amount of radiation given out in the first two to three weeks of the event. And add the wind and blowing in-land. It could very well have brought the nation of Japan to its knees. I mean, there is so much contamination that luckily wound up in the Pacific Ocean as compared to across the nation of Japan – it could have cut Japan in half. But now the winds have turned, so they are heading to the south toward Tokyo and now my concern and my advice to friends that if there is a severe aftershock and the Unit 4 building collapses, leave.

Emphasis mine.

Half-way in to part one of the interview Arnie reminds us of the Sumatra quake:

…let’s say there is a severe aftershock, Unit 3 and Unit 4 are in real jeopardy. And if you remember the Sumatra earthquake, that was a nine plus about three or four years ago. The biggest aftershock occurred three months afterwards and that was an eight six, so aftershocks even though we are two months into this, if the Sumatra event is any indication, aftershocks are still possible.

And what a severe aftershock could mean:

Brookhaven National Labs did a study in 1997 and it said that if a fuel pool went dry and caught on fire, it could cause a hundred and eighty-seven thousand fatalities. So it’s a big concern and probably the biggest concern. I now the Chairman of the NRC said that the reason he told Americans to get out from fifty miles out was that he was afraid that Unit 4 would catch fire, that exposed fuel pool would volatilize plutonium, uranium, cesium, and strontium. And if the Brookhaven Study is to be believed could kill more than a hundred thousand people, as a result.

We are well beyond where any science has ever gone at that point and nuclear fuel lying on the ground and getting hot is not a condition that anyone has ever analyzed.

The wind is going to push it south this time and so the issue is not the total radiation you might measure with a Geiger counter in your hand, but hot particles.

In other words, if there is an aftershock big enough to wreak further havoc — and it’s only been two months since the tsunami — such that the completely uncontained Unit 4 were to catch fire or worse, with the winds now blowing south towards Tokyo there is the potential for wide-scale long-term illness at a level for which the human race has no benchmark.

If you are in Tokyo, be aware that extremely radioactive car filters are being discovered. (It turns out that car filters are an excellent tool for trapping and detecting radiation in a given area.) These filters are picking up “hot particles”; not radiation in wave form as we typically think of it. This is radioactive particulate matter released by the previous detonations at Fukushima. Fallout.

If ingested, these particles can be devastating to long-term health.